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Posted by Lucy Moore on 30 Nov 2007 (0 comments)

My two brothers have come up with the idea of producing some merchandise with a Messy Church logo on.

Unlike them, I run whimpering for the hills at the thought of commerce, but something in me does warm to the idea of providing the possibility of good quality stuff that would

a) be actually useful at Messy Church sessions
b) would go back into homes and help families feel that they belong to the Messy Community by reminding them of its existence.

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Posted by Lucy Moore on 28 Nov 2007 (0 comments)

Things move on so fast! Suddenly we have new possibilities opening up for building our Messy Community.

The deanery has funds, made available by the loss of a vicar in one of the parishes, and the money can go to a Kairos project - in brief, something outreach-y, like Messy Church.

I suddenly realized this money was up for grabs but that any project needed PCC approval and Deanery Synod approval. PCC meets every eight weeks and Deanery Synod every quarter or so, and it just so happened that PCC was the next day and Deanery Synod was in three days' time.

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Posted by Lucy Moore on 24 Nov 2007 (0 comments)

It is so hard to do this Messy Church thing properly! Had we but space enough and time, and no life except church, it would be far easier. But we don't seem to be able even to meet and plan the immediate session in luxurious leisure, let alone make long-term plans.

Posted by Lucy Moore on 18 Oct 2007 (0 comments)

What is the way forward? As the marbling inks clog up the hall ready for Messy Church this afternoon, a particularly sticky cake's icing dries in the kitchen, and a dustbin bag full of empty shoeboxes threatens to trip up the unwary visitor, I wonder: how do we go on from here?

Paul reckons we need to get together a group of people who might be interested in belonging primarily to MC and seeing it eventually as their main spiritual home, and get praying with them, just as you would if you were thinking about a church plant.

Posted by Lucy Moore on 17 Oct 2007 (0 comments)

The publicity has gone out for the first Messy Fiesta next month - thanks to the wonderful sales and marketing department at BRF - and people have signed up to come!

All very exciting as I'm sure this is the best way forward: to talk to each other. I hope I'm going to be able to be gracious enough to be like John the Baptist for the next year or so - decreasing so that others can increase. It would be so easy and so fatal to try to hold all the reins and control everyone's developments, when the best way forward is to try out new things and learn from each other.

Posted by Lucy Moore on 16 Oct 2007 (0 comments)

Very interesting discussion yesterday with Annie from Norwich Diocese (a very happening place, Norwich Diocese, and I'm not being ironic, there are lots of great things going on there). Annie's writing an M.A. dissertation on something to do with women who lead Fresh Expressions (FEs).

What came out, talking to Annie, is more the discrepancy I perceive - which may or may not be justified - in the different value given to lay and ordained leadership in the Church, and how it's much easier to be taken seriously if you are wearing a dog collar.

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Posted by Lucy Moore on 04 Oct 2007 (0 comments)

We got a very warm welcome and felt most honoured to be taken seriously. It's very reassuring that the C of E is employing this team to be thinkers and reflectors - very useful for people like us in our situation.

Perhaps the most poignant moment for me was when I expressed something along the lines of, 'We're not sure whether it would just be a bit of a pity if Messy Church closed down, or whether it's more important than that.' And George replied after some thought, 'I think it would be as if your child was knocked over and killed by a car on the way home from school.'

Posted by Lucy Moore on 21 Sep 2007 (0 comments)

One mum who has been coming for ages is a member of another local church. She is deeply loyal to her church but said to Paul last night, 'The only worship I get that I can relate to is once a month at Messy Church.'

God, forgive us as a church for short-changing you in this chronic way. Show us passion and vision. Add your yeast to the lumpy dough. Make us a community of people with purpose. Help us open the windows to a kingdom that is irresistible and everlasting. Let your sun rise.

Posted by Lucy Moore on 21 Sep 2007 (0 comments)

I wasn't expecting to be there, but unfortunately my torn disc in my back means I can't travel, so I wasn't in Bristol as I had planned. This also meant I wasn't responsible for a craft but spent my time 'doing a Jan' and floating round talking to people. And meant I was able to be on the door to welcome people, too, which was nice.

We set up a 'Quiet Corner' for the first time. Here's what it looked like:

Posted by Lucy Moore on 19 Sep 2007 (0 comments)

At the end of next week, Paul (my combined husband and vicar) and I are heading up to meet the Fresh Expressions thinktank team in Sheffield, at the Church Army HQ.

Claire Dalpra, George Lings, Andrew Wooding and Colin Brown will be there and it's our chance to chew over these big questions and to try to find a fruitful way forward for Messy Churches.

What questions to chew over, though? Here are some of my initial thoughts:

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